DragonFlyBSD Project Update - colo upgrade, future trends
Samuel J. Greear
sjg at evilcode.net
Tue Jul 30 11:59:57 PDT 2019
It's possible to have ones cake and eat it too in this regard.
Many of the available options in web form software allow for emailing of a
periodic digest.
Sam
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 12:36 PM Jasse Jansson <jasse at yberwaffe.com> wrote:
> Well, personally I haven't been using DFly the last few years, but I do
> like to get updates from this mail-list.
> Web-based forums only works for those who checks it at least twice a
> week, the rest of us gets out of the loop really fast.
> Please keep the "users" maillist as a occasionally newsfeed for those of
> us that have old Fords to renovate..
>
>
> On 2019-07-29 19:10, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 10:27, Matthew Dillon <dillon at backplane.com
> > <mailto:dillon at backplane.com>> wrote:
> >
> > The mailing list software has been less than stellar, but the
> > bigger problem is in areas that we have very little control over.
> > We have no control over other people's spam filters, and the
> > mailing list software itself has to deal with a constant influx of
> > spam (which is why you have to be subscribed, now). It is almost
> > impossible to manage it any other way. Nearly all of the internet
> > has moved on to WWW based forum-like mechanisms because they are a
> > whole lot easier to manage. We're going to have to as well.
> >
> > I feel that we do not have a choice here. Privately-run mail
> > systems, in general, are almost dead due to the spam load. I have
> > to forward my own personal domain email through GMail just to be
> > able to continue using it and my GMail spam mailbox consistently
> > contains more than 3000 spams in it (30-day expiration, so ...
> > 100+ spams per day). And that doesn't count the ones Google
> > auto-deletes immediately or the ones my smtp server discards.
> > I've tried everything possible to keep my personal domain and
> > dragonfly's domain email usable but its an impossible task.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > Yes, but it works on OpenBSD.org — the confirmation emails do the
> > trick, and are a much better option than simply discarding emails from
> > non-subscribers. Greylisting through PF spamd is also an option.
> > Personally, I do passive fingerprinting based on OS in my PF(4) spamd
> > setup, which means that most of my mail isn't even subject to
> > greylisting (e.g., Linux and BSD go directly to the real SMTP daemon,
> > whereas all the botnets have to go through spamd first). Another
> > option is to use greytrapping, including through a secondary
> > low-priority MX IP address.
> >
> > Yes, I agree; the mailing list software may be less than stellar, but
> > it's still better than any forum software I've ever encountered. If
> > folks want forum-like functionality, there's already Reddit and
> > Lobsters available as options. (Plus, forum software is not exactly
> > immune from spam, either.)
> >
> > C.
>
>
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