DragonFlyBSD Project Update - colo upgrade, future trends
Jasse Jansson
jasse at yberwaffe.com
Tue Jul 30 11:35:57 PDT 2019
Well, personally I haven't been using DFly the last few years, but I do
like to get updates from this mail-list.
Web-based forums only works for those who checks it at least twice a
week, the rest of us gets out of the loop really fast.
Please keep the "users" maillist as a occasionally newsfeed for those of
us that have old Fords to renovate..
On 2019-07-29 19:10, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 10:27, Matthew Dillon <dillon at backplane.com
> <mailto:dillon at backplane.com>> wrote:
>
> The mailing list software has been less than stellar, but the
> bigger problem is in areas that we have very little control over.
> We have no control over other people's spam filters, and the
> mailing list software itself has to deal with a constant influx of
> spam (which is why you have to be subscribed, now). It is almost
> impossible to manage it any other way. Nearly all of the internet
> has moved on to WWW based forum-like mechanisms because they are a
> whole lot easier to manage. We're going to have to as well.
>
> I feel that we do not have a choice here. Privately-run mail
> systems, in general, are almost dead due to the spam load. I have
> to forward my own personal domain email through GMail just to be
> able to continue using it and my GMail spam mailbox consistently
> contains more than 3000 spams in it (30-day expiration, so ...
> 100+ spams per day). And that doesn't count the ones Google
> auto-deletes immediately or the ones my smtp server discards.
> I've tried everything possible to keep my personal domain and
> dragonfly's domain email usable but its an impossible task.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> Yes, but it works on OpenBSD.org — the confirmation emails do the
> trick, and are a much better option than simply discarding emails from
> non-subscribers. Greylisting through PF spamd is also an option.
> Personally, I do passive fingerprinting based on OS in my PF(4) spamd
> setup, which means that most of my mail isn't even subject to
> greylisting (e.g., Linux and BSD go directly to the real SMTP daemon,
> whereas all the botnets have to go through spamd first). Another
> option is to use greytrapping, including through a secondary
> low-priority MX IP address.
>
> Yes, I agree; the mailing list software may be less than stellar, but
> it's still better than any forum software I've ever encountered. If
> folks want forum-like functionality, there's already Reddit and
> Lobsters available as options. (Plus, forum software is not exactly
> immune from spam, either.)
>
> C.
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