Users Digest, Vol 92, Issue 13

Sat Apr 18 09:56:01 PDT 2020

On Friday, April 17, 2020, <users-request at dragonflybsd.org> wrote:

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>    1. RE:wifi drops out (Jonathan Engwall)
>    2. Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow? (Michael Neumann)
>    3. Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow? (Gerald Henriksen)
>    4. Re: New "chromium" does not sync bookmarks or any data
>       (Matthew Dillon)
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> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:55:04 -0700
> From: Jonathan Engwall <engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com>
> To: 1 at tse.gratis
> Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <users at dragonflybsd.org>
> Subject: RE:wifi drops out
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> Hello Tse,
> If it works a little then stops that is one thing. But if it is not
> actually working at all when it should you can try a few different things.
> So can you clarify: does it work for a few minutes then stop; does it say
> it is working but then prove not too; or does it seem to work only until
> you need more than today's headline story or the Google splash?
> Why is your wifi on a NIC and a PCIE? Does this make sense? The OS is
> looking for it, and it is not there. Where is it really, that is the
> question I think. But this is not the only possibility.
> PCIE lanes lead to NICs which are physical components, on the other hand a
> MAC is an IPV6 address; IPV6 is not exactly necessary, you can turn it off.
> This was not the first hint of trouble, maybe it is something else.
> You may need only update ipfw3. If you can access the router, reset it.
> To get a bigger picture in a terminal type: "ifconfig", "dmesg", and
> "netstat -a | less" then share the results.
> Jonathan Engwall
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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:27:18 +0200
> From: Michael Neumann <mneumann at ntecs.de>
> To: Jonathan Engwall <engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com>
> Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <users at dragonflybsd.org>
> Subject: Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow?
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> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Jonathan Engwall wrote:
> > Michael,
> > No, bazel won't build. No protoc, I tried the BUILD from third party, I
> > cloned from github and downloaded from the project main page with the
> same
> > results.
>
> With some effort, we might get protoc to build on DragonFly... but not so
> sure
> about TensorFlow.
>
> > I am not running linux.ko for compatibility, and would rather not. What
> are
> > the steps to use PyTorch?
>
> I haven't tried myself on DragonFly, so you might also run into problems
> with
> PyTorch. You need to install from source:
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> https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch#from-source
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> There are some alternatives to PyTorch or TensorFlow:
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>   * MLPack (pkg ins mlpack)
>   * Keras (pkg ins py37-keras)
>   * Theano (pkg ins py37-theano)
>
> Regards,
>
>   Michael
>
>
> > Thank you,
> > Jonathan Engwall
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 12:59 AM Michael Neumann <mneumann at ntecs.de>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:20:42PM -0700, Jonathan Engwall wrote:
> > > > It seems DragonFly is practically locked out of TensorFlow. Bazel is
> just
> > > > too finicky.
> > > > Is there a work around?
> > >
> > > Can you describe more precisely, why TensorFlow is not working on
> > > DragonFly?
> > >
> > > Can't you get bazel to build?
> > >
> > > Have you tried PyTorch instead?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >   Michael
> > >
> > >
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> --
> Michael Neumann
> NTECS Consulting
> www.ntecs.de
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:55:46 -0400
> From: Gerald Henriksen <ghenriks at gmail.com>
> To: users at dragonflybsd.org
> Subject: Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow?
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> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:20:42 -0700, you wrote:
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> >It seems DragonFly is practically locked out of TensorFlow. Bazel is just
> >too finicky.
>
> Depending on what you want to do, and how serious any Tensorflow/ML
> stuff is, none of the BSD's are great.
>
> You really need GPU support to effectively do ML, which for most cases
> means CUDA (not available on BSD), or to a lesser extent whatever AMD
> uses on their GPUs.  The AMD stuff is less supported in the ML world,
> and not sure what level of support there is in the AMD open source
> stuff on the BSD's regarding OpenCL, SYCL, and ROCm.
>
>
> A few days ago I installed Spyder which I like very much, Spyder was
crashing. So I started adding support for IPython.
My system started building wheels which I found very interesting. Main
packages however, even csv, will not install.
Thank you for your help
Jonathan Engwall

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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 07:26:13 -0900
> From: Matthew Dillon <dillon at backplane.com>
> To: Siju George <sgeorge.ml at gmail.com>
> Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <users at dragonflybsd.org>
> Subject: Re: New "chromium" does not sync bookmarks or any data
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> As per a conversation on IRC I think we can summarize the issue as being
> related to the Google API keys that the chromium package is compiled with.
> Historically we just used the FreeBSD keys, but in recent times I've
> questioned whether we should use any keys at all.  The keys are required by
> google to integrate with google services such as account synchronization
> and automatic translation.  Without the keys, those services will not
> operate in a fully integrated manner (for example, no auto-translation, but
> you can still go directly to the translation URL).  It's a bit of a mess,
> we're mulling over what to do.  Honestly I'm leaning towards not building
> chromium with any API keys at all since doing so marries the browser to
> google's integrated services.
>
> -Matt
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