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1. RE:wifi drops out (Jonathan Engwall)<br>
2. Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow? (Michael Neumann)<br>
3. Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow? (Gerald Henriksen)<br>
4. Re: New "chromium" does not sync bookmarks or any data<br>
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:55:04 -0700<br>
From: Jonathan Engwall <<a href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
To: 1@tse.gratis<br>
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Subject: RE:wifi drops out<br>
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Hello Tse,<br>
If it works a little then stops that is one thing. But if it is not<br>
actually working at all when it should you can try a few different things.<br>
So can you clarify: does it work for a few minutes then stop; does it say<br>
it is working but then prove not too; or does it seem to work only until<br>
you need more than today's headline story or the Google splash?<br>
Why is your wifi on a NIC and a PCIE? Does this make sense? The OS is<br>
looking for it, and it is not there. Where is it really, that is the<br>
question I think. But this is not the only possibility.<br>
PCIE lanes lead to NICs which are physical components, on the other hand a<br>
MAC is an IPV6 address; IPV6 is not exactly necessary, you can turn it off.<br>
This was not the first hint of trouble, maybe it is something else.<br>
You may need only update ipfw3. If you can access the router, reset it.<br>
To get a bigger picture in a terminal type: "ifconfig", "dmesg", and<br>
"netstat -a | less" then share the results.<br>
Jonathan Engwall<br>
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:27:18 +0200<br>
From: Michael Neumann <<a href="mailto:mneumann@ntecs.de">mneumann@ntecs.de</a>><br>
To: Jonathan Engwall <<a href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow?<br>
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Jonathan Engwall wrote:<br>
> Michael,<br>
> No, bazel won't build. No protoc, I tried the BUILD from third party, I<br>
> cloned from github and downloaded from the project main page with the same<br>
> results.<br>
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With some effort, we might get protoc to build on DragonFly... but not so sure<br>
about TensorFlow.<br>
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> I am not running linux.ko for compatibility, and would rather not. What are<br>
> the steps to use PyTorch?<br>
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I haven't tried myself on DragonFly, so you might also run into problems with<br>
PyTorch. You need to install from source:<br>
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<a href="https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch#from-source" target="_blank">https://github.com/pytorch/<wbr>pytorch#from-source</a><br>
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There are some alternatives to PyTorch or TensorFlow:<br>
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* MLPack (pkg ins mlpack) <br>
* Keras (pkg ins py37-keras)<br>
* Theano (pkg ins py37-theano)<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Michael<br>
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> Thank you,<br>
> Jonathan Engwall<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 12:59 AM Michael Neumann <<a href="mailto:mneumann@ntecs.de">mneumann@ntecs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:20:42PM -0700, Jonathan Engwall wrote:<br>
> > > It seems DragonFly is practically locked out of TensorFlow. Bazel is just<br>
> > > too finicky.<br>
> > > Is there a work around?<br>
> ><br>
> > Can you describe more precisely, why TensorFlow is not working on<br>
> > DragonFly?<br>
> ><br>
> > Can't you get bazel to build?<br>
> ><br>
> > Have you tried PyTorch instead?<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Michael<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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Michael Neumann<br>
NTECS Consulting<br>
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:55:46 -0400<br>
From: Gerald Henriksen <<a href="mailto:ghenriks@gmail.com">ghenriks@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:users@dragonflybsd.org">users@dragonflybsd.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: Has anyone installed TensorFlow?<br>
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:20:42 -0700, you wrote:<br>
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>It seems DragonFly is practically locked out of TensorFlow. Bazel is just<br>
>too finicky.<br>
<br>
Depending on what you want to do, and how serious any Tensorflow/ML<br>
stuff is, none of the BSD's are great.<br>
<br>
You really need GPU support to effectively do ML, which for most cases<br>
means CUDA (not available on BSD), or to a lesser extent whatever AMD<br>
uses on their GPUs. The AMD stuff is less supported in the ML world,<br>
and not sure what level of support there is in the AMD open source<br>
stuff on the BSD's regarding OpenCL, SYCL, and ROCm.<br>
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<br></blockquote><div>A few days ago I installed Spyder which I like very much, Spyder was crashing. So I started adding support for IPython.</div><div>My system started building wheels which I found very interesting. Main packages however, even csv, will not install.</div><div>Thank you for your help</div><div>Jonathan Engwall</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 07:26:13 -0900<br>
From: Matthew Dillon <<a href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com">dillon@backplane.com</a>><br>
To: Siju George <<a href="mailto:sgeorge.ml@gmail.com">sgeorge.ml@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <<a href="mailto:users@dragonflybsd.org">users@dragonflybsd.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: New "chromium" does not sync bookmarks or any data<br>
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As per a conversation on IRC I think we can summarize the issue as being<br>
related to the Google API keys that the chromium package is compiled with.<br>
Historically we just used the FreeBSD keys, but in recent times I've<br>
questioned whether we should use any keys at all. The keys are required by<br>
google to integrate with google services such as account synchronization<br>
and automatic translation. Without the keys, those services will not<br>
operate in a fully integrated manner (for example, no auto-translation, but<br>
you can still go directly to the translation URL). It's a bit of a mess,<br>
we're mulling over what to do. Honestly I'm leaning towards not building<br>
chromium with any API keys at all since doing so marries the browser to<br>
google's integrated services.<br>
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-Matt<br>
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