Wishlist for unfrozen base
Simon 'corecode' Schubert
corecode at fs.ei.tum.de
Sat Jul 4 04:57:46 PDT 2009
Hasso Tepper wrote:
* gcc 3.4 removal. There are two options - remove it entirely or just
disable it by default (it still might be potentially useful, for example
gcc34 in the pkgsrc will never support stack protection). Opinions?
* gcc 4.x update. gcc 4.1.2 we use at the moment is too buggy - to the
point where some projects ignore bugreports at all if gcc-4.1.x is in
use (ffmpeg for example). We should decide what path to choose at all
with it though. There is several issues with newer gcc's - there is a
license issue (newer ones at some point use GPLv3) and gcc 4.3 and up
have a more dependencies (do we want all these in the base?).
I don't think we need to care about GPLv3 in the toolchain. I ported
gcc-4.4 in pkgsrc wip, so if that compiles base well (not sure if Sascha
did a whole world/kernel run with it), we could import gcc-4.4.
> we still
have to decide whether it's OK to pull in GMP and MPFR libraries (needed
for 4.3 and up).
That's a pain, yes. But in the long run we won't have a choice, I think.
Porting is probably also only a one-shot thing.
* binutils update. The very same license issue potentially exists (2.18
and up are under GPLv3), but it would allow to use many performance
improvements introduced in newer versions.
Likewise I think we should move forward there.
Corecode expressed his view that we shouldn't get rid of libc_r entirely -
it's actually good potential testcase and I tend to agree with him. But
we should do two things IMHO:
* move both libc_r.so and libthread_xu.so out from /usr/lib so no app has
a chance to link against these directly (yes, corecode, I think now
it's a good idea ;)
* introduce stubs for stuff not in libc_r - barriers, spinlocks and some
Will that be sufficient, will it work?
There are also smaller items in the wishlist like updating ncurses and gdb
(hint! ;P), but ... Yeah, I want a pony as well ...
I think I started looking at gdb at some point. Will have to look again.
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