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[Michael Neumann]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 02:42:24PM -0600, Philip Fraering wrote:
> 
> The acknowledgement message and the reply message were both set up with
> the address "users@ " without a domain. I guessed
> lists.dragonflybsc.org and it worked, but I thought I'd mention
> something so someone could fix it.
> 
> Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a used laptop to test out dragonflybsd
> on, and I was wondering, what's simultaneously cheap and works well? I
> recently had a used hp elitebook 725 g3 that worked well before it
> broke, and I was looking at another but I figured I'd ask here first.

I have a Panasonic Let's Note CF-SV7, which I bought second-hand in
Osaka, Japan. I love it, but you only get them in Japan or via Ebay
(rather cheap - 200 EUR).

Mine is around 7 years old. It's not a powerhouse, but compact, good
keyboard (at least I like it), lightweight, robust and exchangable
battery.  Most things work, Wifi, SSD (unfortunatly still SATA),
i915 graphics, Webcam.

If you buy a laptop it's better to take a close look at the hardware
specs. Maybe post them here before buying it. You'll often find "dmesg"
from Linux for particular hardware.  Most laptops have Intel graphics
(i915), and that usually works quite well with DragonFly, especially if
it's an older laptop.

https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=9f49f254bb

This is the entry for the HP EliteBook.

It has Radeon graphics R5/R6/R7. We do have an (old) Radeon driver and I
used it myself many years ago, but I am not sure if that particular
graphic card is supported :(.

The Wifi is Intel Wireless 7265 - we have a driver for that: iwm(4).

> (Or maybe an older and/or intel-based dell or hp... I'm not attached to
> anything, but I wanted to see if there's a relatively modern machine
> that's relatively well supported. I think the intel equivalent of the
> 725 I mentioned is the 820 g3).

I'd pick one with a i915 graphics card, Wifi 5 (iwm driver).  Ideally a
NVME SSD. Be careful with the battery. Most laptops have a built-in
battery and it's rather difficult to exchange it in case it is not good
anymore. And non-original replacement batteries can be expensive and
crap.

Feel free to ask more here on the mailing list or hop onto the IRC
channel.

Regards,

  Michael

> 
> Anyway, thanks.
> 
> Phil Fraering
> phil_fraering at fastmail.com