From phil_fraering at fastmail.com Wed Nov 26 12:42:24 2025 From: phil_fraering at fastmail.com (Philip Fraering) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:42:24 -0600 Subject: test message.... mailing list software looks misconfigured.... Message-ID: <20251126144224.21e85f89.phil_fraering@fastmail.com> The acknowledgement message and the reply message were both set up with the address "users@ " without a domain. I guessed lists.dragonflybsc.org and it worked, but I thought I'd mention something so someone could fix it. Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a used laptop to test out dragonflybsd on, and I was wondering, what's simultaneously cheap and works well? I recently had a used hp elitebook 725 g3 that worked well before it broke, and I was looking at another but I figured I'd ask here first. (Or maybe an older and/or intel-based dell or hp... I'm not attached to anything, but I wanted to see if there's a relatively modern machine that's relatively well supported. I think the intel equivalent of the 725 I mentioned is the 820 g3). Anyway, thanks. Phil Fraering phil_fraering at fastmail.com From mneumann at ntecs.de Wed Nov 26 13:31:09 2025 From: mneumann at ntecs.de (Michael Neumann) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:31:09 +0100 Subject: test message.... mailing list software looks misconfigured.... In-Reply-To: <20251126144224.21e85f89.phil_fraering@fastmail.com> References: <20251126144224.21e85f89.phil_fraering@fastmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 02:42:24PM -0600, Philip Fraering wrote: > > The acknowledgement message and the reply message were both set up with > the address "users@ " without a domain. I guessed > lists.dragonflybsc.org and it worked, but I thought I'd mention > something so someone could fix it. > > Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a used laptop to test out dragonflybsd > on, and I was wondering, what's simultaneously cheap and works well? I > recently had a used hp elitebook 725 g3 that worked well before it > broke, and I was looking at another but I figured I'd ask here first. I have a Panasonic Let's Note CF-SV7, which I bought second-hand in Osaka, Japan. I love it, but you only get them in Japan or via Ebay (rather cheap - 200 EUR). Mine is around 7 years old. It's not a powerhouse, but compact, good keyboard (at least I like it), lightweight, robust and exchangable battery. Most things work, Wifi, SSD (unfortunatly still SATA), i915 graphics, Webcam. If you buy a laptop it's better to take a close look at the hardware specs. Maybe post them here before buying it. You'll often find "dmesg" from Linux for particular hardware. Most laptops have Intel graphics (i915), and that usually works quite well with DragonFly, especially if it's an older laptop. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=9f49f254bb This is the entry for the HP EliteBook. It has Radeon graphics R5/R6/R7. We do have an (old) Radeon driver and I used it myself many years ago, but I am not sure if that particular graphic card is supported :(. The Wifi is Intel Wireless 7265 - we have a driver for that: iwm(4). > (Or maybe an older and/or intel-based dell or hp... I'm not attached to > anything, but I wanted to see if there's a relatively modern machine > that's relatively well supported. I think the intel equivalent of the > 725 I mentioned is the 820 g3). I'd pick one with a i915 graphics card, Wifi 5 (iwm driver). Ideally a NVME SSD. Be careful with the battery. Most laptops have a built-in battery and it's rather difficult to exchange it in case it is not good anymore. And non-original replacement batteries can be expensive and crap. Feel free to ask more here on the mailing list or hop onto the IRC channel. Regards, Michael > > Anyway, thanks. > > Phil Fraering > phil_fraering at fastmail.com