can I use the display native resolution on vty0 as on any other vty's using KMS ?

nacho Lariguet lariguet at gmail.com
Sun Aug 9 15:33:39 PDT 2020


On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:53:22 -0700
Jonathan Engwall <engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com> wrote:

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> >    1. Re: can I use the display native resolution on vty0 as on any
> >       other vty's using KMS ? (nacho Lariguet)
> >    2. how do I label (meaning adding a reminder caption) to any
> >       given BSD slice ? (nacho Lariguet)
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> > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 18:06:14 -0300
> > From: nacho Lariguet <lariguet at gmail.com>
> > To: users at dragonflybsd.org
> > Subject: Re: can I use the display native resolution on vty0 as on any
> >         other vty's using KMS ?
> > Message-ID: <20200808180614.66f67761 at leonov>
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> > On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 11:26:35 -0700
> > Jonathan Engwall <engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > Your picture looks to me like the standard "UNIX multi-user mode" perhaps
> > > you should select a graphical target somehow. Are making a multi-head  
> > boot,  
> > > or bringing up each tty simultaneously?
> > > Jonathan Engwall  
> >
> > ... standard "UNIX multi-user mode" ... sure: do I did try/ask for
> > anything else ?
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm not following
> >  
> 
> Your photo shows the BSD/UNIX default to boot to a root system
> administrator account. To change this you will need to boot to a graphical
> target, or launch a multi head, or something relevant to what you are doing.
> I don't know what you are doing. Maybe puppet would work for you?
> Jonathan Engwall

OK. Let me be more clear.

I want to start using dragonFly ... daily.

So the first step is to install it on the hardware that for whatever reasons
I currently have, get it running without major issues, and last but not least,
set a working environment that suits my needs, which ends in the following fact:

What I want is dragonFly running ... WITHOUT X11 !

I just want to develop and work with/on the system console, which in our case,
happens to be syscons since we still don't have vt/wcons/whatever which means
no native UTF-8 console for the time being.

I feel comfortable working/developing without a major stack like X because:

- I'm learning BSD and the best way to learn something like this is bottom to top
not the other way around. This is exactly what I've done with arch-linux some years
ago, I just installed a barebones system and from then on I kept learning and
needless to say I learned a lot of thinks of linux inner workings which I doubt
I could have learned with the zillion packages required by X and any given desktop
environment with all their complexity and all the duplicacte functionality. Prior
to start using linux I developed for many many years on, yes, Microsoft products
and whatnot. Eventually moving to linux was so alien that I wanted to start, I say
it again: bottom to top, not the other way around.

- That said, I eventually want to move my primary workstation to dragonFly and a
couple of servers, and I decided, wisely or not, that I want to move one server 
first because the server won't need X etc etc and albeit being a file/web server
to begin with, it will give me a working environment so I can start coding in BSD,
meaning primarily C.

- Everything I need to code do not requires X at all: just a working system console.
I learned to use VIM in the past few years and feels quite comfortably with it
meaning I totally customized it (even I coded many syntax files from scratch), and
in my arch linux console environment I have everything I want to.

That will give you a detailed overview of what I am after with dragonFly.

I need a couple of things:

- digital video at max resolution: 1920x1200 in my case ... got it on my test-bed
desktop and will attempt to get it running on my PowerEdge servers in a couple of
days I guess.

- a working US international keyboard layout (us-acentos) ... still not working

- a UTF-8 native console ... I know I should give up on this if I want to use this OS

- a custom script in CSH to execute after booting a liveCD that formats/installs/
configures everything as needed ... almost done, testing it right now.

From there on I'm planing to use what for whatever reasons I am currently using in arch:

- BIND
- nginx
- postgreSQL

Nothing special, all are in dPorts and I can customize and recompile them as needed.

WHEN I get this server working I will start fiddling with X11 on my future BSD workstation.

Sorry if this answer was a bit long but I hope you'll understand where I am standing
right now.

> I don't know what you are doing. Maybe puppet would work for you?

I'll eventually get it running with/without your support.

Thanks for your advice, and I mean it.

PS: You will note that I am asking a lot of questions on the mailing list, I read the man
pages, always, that won't mean that some thing can goes unnoticed to me at any given time
or that simply I just forgot about some x detail I read before, there's a LOT to learn
and the fact that I am asking is because I am a NEWBIE to BSD in general and I want to
learn, nothing out of the ordinary I guess. If that irritates you just ignore me. I will
be fine.

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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 15:04:42 -0300
> > From: nacho Lariguet <lariguet at gmail.com>
> > To: dragonFlyBSD user list <users at dragonflybsd.org>
> > Subject: how do I label (meaning adding a reminder caption) to any
> >         given BSD slice ?
> > Message-ID: <20200809150442.7f5bc89d at leonov>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > ie: the "label:" field shown under the "diskid:" one with disklabel64
> >
> > It seems there is no switch (maybe -l) on disklabel64 (when using -w) to
> > label a slice.
> >
> > eg:
> >
> > # /dev/da0s1:
> > #
> > # Calculated informational fields for the slice:
> > #
> > # boot space:    1044480 bytes
> > # data space:  175691776 blocks # 171574.00 MB (179908378624 bytes)
> > #
> > # NOTE: The partition data base and stop are physically
> > #       aligned instead of slice-relative aligned.
> > #
> > # All byte equivalent offsets must be aligned.
> > #
> > diskid: af1b4686-d85d-11ea-9373-012324e2aca4
> > label: ... HOW TO SET THIS ONE ?
> > boot2 data base:      0x000000001000
> > partitions data base: 0x000000100000
> > partitions data stop: 0x0029e3700000
> > backup label:         0x0029e37ff000
> > total size:           0x0029e3800000    # 171576.00 MB
> > alignment: 4096
> > display block size: 1024        # for partition display and edit only
> >
> > 16 partitions:
> > #          size     offset    fstype   fsuuid
> >   a:    1048576          0    4.2BSD    #    1024.000MB
> >   d:   33554432    1048576   HAMMER2    #   32768.000MB
> >   e:  134217728   34603008   HAMMER2    #  131072.000MB
> >   f:    6871040  168820736   HAMMER2    #    6710.000MB
> >   a-stor_uuid: eb61372a-d85d-11ea-9373-012324e2aca4
> >   d-stor_uuid: eb613733-d85d-11ea-9373-012324e2aca4
> >   e-stor_uuid: eb613739-d85d-11ea-9373-012324e2aca4
> >   f-stor_uuid: eb61373e-d85d-11ea-9373-012324e2aca4
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