Questions about current stable version of dragonflybsd regarding drivers and desktop environment

Sat May 28 01:11:22 PDT 2016

Hi Bret

I'm actually quite interested in your experience, since I have been
fighting and older nvidia optimus config myself. You are right in avoiding
flame wars. So why not posting your current status? 😂

Thanks a ton
/PA
El 27/5/2016 20:32, "Bret Busby" <bret.busby at gmail.com> escribió:

> On 27/05/2016, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff <czarkoff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > John Marino said:
> >> So in other words, what does your quote about the relationship between
> >> FreeBSD and DragonFly have to do with anything?
> >
> > These days Linux distributions call themselves "operating systems."  I
> > bet a lot of people who were not around 10 years ago reading
> >
> > | DragonFly BSD was originally forked from FreeBSD 4.8 in June of 2003,
> > | by Matthew Dillon. The project was originally billed as "the logical
> > | continuation of the FreeBSD 4.x series", as quoted in Matthew Dillon's
> > | announcement, but this description has long since become obsolete.
> >
> > think that DragonFly BSD and FreeBSD are distributions of the same "BSD"
> > operating system, pretty much like Ubuntu Linux and Debian GNU/Linux are
> > distributions of the same "Linux" operating system.
> >
> > I am amazed that OpenBSD mailing lists are not spammed with questions
> > "Why  my favorite NetBSD kernel module does not work?"
> >
> > Probably dragonflybsd.org should stress more that it is a proper
> > operating system, and not a distribution or a tiny patchset against
> > FreeBSD.
> >
> > --
> > Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
> >
>
> Thank you, for making this a constructive thing again, instead of the
> flame war that the other one started.
>
> I am currently a user of UbuntuMATE. Ubuntu Linux started as a
> derivative of Debian Linux, then, went its own way, from what I
> understand. That included some enhancements over Debian Linux. Ubuntu
> Linux can install some .deb packages, that can be installed and run on
> Linux.
>
> I switched from Debian Linux to UbuntuMATE, because, at the time,
> Ubuntu Linux was the only non-Microsoft operating system, that had
> drivers for both the CPU and the GPU, on this computer. Debian Linux
> had neither a driver for the CPU, nor a driver for the GPU. (By the
> GPU, I refer to the nVIDIA one, not the one that is part of the Intel
> Haskell architecture in the system).
>
> At the time, DragonflyBSD had a driver for the CPU; the Intel Haskell
> architecture, and was the only  non-Microsoft operating system, other
> than Ubuntu Linux, that I found, that had that driver. But,
> DragonflyBSD did not have a driver for the nVIDIA GPU.
>
> From what I understood, DragonflyBSD was way ahead of FreeBSD, in
> terms of drivers.
>
> I did not know that FreeBSD software, in whatever form (packages or
> otherwise), would not run on DragonflyBSD.
>
> From what I understand of Linux, a "binary" can be installed on any
> distribution of Linux, and, a "package" requires a package manager,
> and, some Linux distributions have package mangers that can deal with
> some package types (eg, Ubuntu and Debian may be able to both deal
> with .deb packages, and, so might some other distributions, and,
> package managers may be available for some distributions, to deal with
> packages designed for other distributions (I believe that a package
> manager is available for the .deb package based systems, that can deal
> with .rpm packages) ).
>
> So, I figured that it could be possible that this new (about a day or
> two, old) driver for the nVIDIA GPU, being a binary, rather than a
> distribution (eg freeBSD or DragonflyBSD or OpenBSD, etc, etc, etc)
> specific package, could be installed and run on DragonflyBSD. I did
> not expect a flame war to be started over the issue.
>
> Such contempt for inexperience, and hateful behaviour, as demonstrated
> in this matter (not by the person, whose message is above), is not
> conducive to increasing the popularity of the operating system.
>
> If a person makes an incorrect assumption, such as I did, it would
> have been sufficient to have simply stated, in a friendly manner, that
> the particular driver would not work with DragonflyBSD, instead of
> flying around in a rabid rage with no sense being able to be drawn
> from the ravings.
>
>
> --
>
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
>
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>
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