Trouble running KDE or Gnome

[karu.pruun]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Bernard Mentink <bmentink at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now the only other issue I have running KDE is that when I enable sound on
> my platform by loading the snd_hda module, I get  pulseaudio taking up 100%
> of one of my cpu cores ...
> Sound works ok though .... any idea what goes on there? do I have to adjust
> some pulseaudio parameters?


Yes I've noticed that too, but sorry no idea what's going on or how to
fix that; I haven't followed that up. Let us know if you find out.

Cheers

Peeter

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>
> Cheers,
> Bernie
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, karu.pruun <karu.pruun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Bernard Mentink <bmentink at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> > Appreciate the explanation.
>> > However, the description of the FreeBSD setup for gnome and the DFly one
>> > are
>> > quite different.
>> >
>> > The FreeBSD one says to start dbus and hald  via rc.conf. Dfly does not
>> > say
>> > to do that.
>> >
>> > If I follow FreeBSD instructions KDE won't work at all, because KDE
>> > starts
>> > dbus itself and bombs out if it is already running. So at least Dfly
>> > works
>> > with KDE by NOT starting dbus in rc.conf ..
>>
>>
>> There are two standard dbus session instances normally: one is the
>> systemwide bus that is started via /etc/rc.conf, the other is a
>> session bus which is started by KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE when they
>> launch. So you should include
>>
>> dbus_enable="YES"
>>
>> in rc.conf. If you do not do this, you'll see some complaining in the
>> log; but may still be able to run the DE. This is how I run KDE and I
>> can confirm that it runs fine on my machine DragonFly
>> v4.5.0.1247.g122b6-DEVELOPMENT. MATE and XFCE run fine as well. I
>> don't run hald for any of the DEs. Not sure why KDE does not run when
>> you start the system dbus instance.
>>
>> GNOME (gnome3) does not work, or at least to my experience. There's
>> some complaining by gnome-settings-daemon about not being able to
>> communicate via dbus, and it may well be the reason but I haven't
>> followed up.
>>
>>
>> > PS: Man pages don't help a new user get up and running when they are
>> > used to
>> > the Linux way of doing things .... for example, the Lack of the lspci
>> > instruction means I can't see what module I need to load  for my audio
>> > hardware ...
>>
>>
>> pciconf -l
>> pciconf -lv
>>
>> A lot of this applies to DragonFly as well:
>>
>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Peeter
>>
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>>
>>
>> >> On 6/26/2016 3:38 AM, Bernard Mentink wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi John,
>> >>>
>> >>> So why should I use the FreeBSD instructions? I thought this was
>> >>> DragonFlyBSD forum?
>> >>>
>> >>> I used the instructions from
>> >>> here: https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you saying I should not use the DFly instructions to setup DFly?
>> >>>
>> >>> That is just weird ..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Bernard,
>> >> Of course it would be ideal if DragonFly documentation was at the same
>> >> level as FreeBSD but the fact is that this is not the case.  FreeBSD
>> >> has an
>> >> entire team whose primary responsibility is documentation.
>> >>
>> >> Now you may be aware that DragonFly DPorts is basically FreeBSD ports
>> >> made
>> >> to work on DragonFly.  As such, instructions to install third-party
>> >> software
>> >> on FreeBSD are good for DragonFly as well.  So it's not weird to
>> >> reference
>> >> FreeBSD documentation when DPorts are involved as is the case here.
>> >>
>> >> As a last thought, our handbook is a living wiki.  Some people have
>> >> improved KDE instructions recently, but if you think it needs more then
>> >> you
>> >> have the ability to write these improvements so everyone can benefit.
>> >>
>> >> DragonFly MAN pages are top notch, but the handbook / wiki is not at
>> >> the
>> >> same quality level (and in some cases are poor quality).
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
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