Trouble running KDE or Gnome

[karu.pruun]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Bernard Mentink <bmentink at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Appreciate the explanation.
> However, the description of the FreeBSD setup for gnome and the DFly one are
> quite different.
>
> The FreeBSD one says to start dbus and hald  via rc.conf. Dfly does not say
> to do that.
>
> If I follow FreeBSD instructions KDE won't work at all, because KDE starts
> dbus itself and bombs out if it is already running. So at least Dfly works
> with KDE by NOT starting dbus in rc.conf ..


There are two standard dbus session instances normally: one is the
systemwide bus that is started via /etc/rc.conf, the other is a
session bus which is started by KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE when they
launch. So you should include

dbus_enable="YES"

in rc.conf. If you do not do this, you'll see some complaining in the
log; but may still be able to run the DE. This is how I run KDE and I
can confirm that it runs fine on my machine DragonFly
v4.5.0.1247.g122b6-DEVELOPMENT. MATE and XFCE run fine as well. I
don't run hald for any of the DEs. Not sure why KDE does not run when
you start the system dbus instance.

GNOME (gnome3) does not work, or at least to my experience. There's
some complaining by gnome-settings-daemon about not being able to
communicate via dbus, and it may well be the reason but I haven't
followed up.


> PS: Man pages don't help a new user get up and running when they are used to
> the Linux way of doing things .... for example, the Lack of the lspci
> instruction means I can't see what module I need to load  for my audio
> hardware ...


pciconf -l
pciconf -lv

A lot of this applies to DragonFly as well:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html


Cheers

Peeter

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>> On 6/26/2016 3:38 AM, Bernard Mentink wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> So why should I use the FreeBSD instructions? I thought this was
>>> DragonFlyBSD forum?
>>>
>>> I used the instructions from
>>> here: https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2
>>>
>>> Are you saying I should not use the DFly instructions to setup DFly?
>>>
>>> That is just weird ..
>>
>>
>> Hi Bernard,
>> Of course it would be ideal if DragonFly documentation was at the same
>> level as FreeBSD but the fact is that this is not the case.  FreeBSD has an
>> entire team whose primary responsibility is documentation.
>>
>> Now you may be aware that DragonFly DPorts is basically FreeBSD ports made
>> to work on DragonFly.  As such, instructions to install third-party software
>> on FreeBSD are good for DragonFly as well.  So it's not weird to reference
>> FreeBSD documentation when DPorts are involved as is the case here.
>>
>> As a last thought, our handbook is a living wiki.  Some people have
>> improved KDE instructions recently, but if you think it needs more then you
>> have the ability to write these improvements so everyone can benefit.
>>
>> DragonFly MAN pages are top notch, but the handbook / wiki is not at the
>> same quality level (and in some cases are poor quality).
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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