Trouble running KDE or Gnome

Sun Jun 26 13:19:51 PDT 2016

Ok, I wonder if there is a way to get KDE to use OSS directly instead of
horrible pulseaudio ..
On my system, settings show pulse with vlc as a backend ..

Cheers,
Bernie

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:45 AM, karu.pruun <karu.pruun at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Bernard Mentink <bmentink at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Now the only other issue I have running KDE is that when I enable sound
> on
> > my platform by loading the snd_hda module, I get  pulseaudio taking up
> 100%
> > of one of my cpu cores ...
> > Sound works ok though .... any idea what goes on there? do I have to
> adjust
> > some pulseaudio parameters?
>
>
> Yes I've noticed that too, but sorry no idea what's going on or how to
> fix that; I haven't followed that up. Let us know if you find out.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peeter
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bernie
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, karu.pruun <karu.pruun at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Bernard Mentink <bmentink at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi John,
> >> >
> >> > Appreciate the explanation.
> >> > However, the description of the FreeBSD setup for gnome and the DFly
> one
> >> > are
> >> > quite different.
> >> >
> >> > The FreeBSD one says to start dbus and hald  via rc.conf. Dfly does
> not
> >> > say
> >> > to do that.
> >> >
> >> > If I follow FreeBSD instructions KDE won't work at all, because KDE
> >> > starts
> >> > dbus itself and bombs out if it is already running. So at least Dfly
> >> > works
> >> > with KDE by NOT starting dbus in rc.conf ..
> >>
> >>
> >> There are two standard dbus session instances normally: one is the
> >> systemwide bus that is started via /etc/rc.conf, the other is a
> >> session bus which is started by KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE when they
> >> launch. So you should include
> >>
> >> dbus_enable="YES"
> >>
> >> in rc.conf. If you do not do this, you'll see some complaining in the
> >> log; but may still be able to run the DE. This is how I run KDE and I
> >> can confirm that it runs fine on my machine DragonFly
> >> v4.5.0.1247.g122b6-DEVELOPMENT. MATE and XFCE run fine as well. I
> >> don't run hald for any of the DEs. Not sure why KDE does not run when
> >> you start the system dbus instance.
> >>
> >> GNOME (gnome3) does not work, or at least to my experience. There's
> >> some complaining by gnome-settings-daemon about not being able to
> >> communicate via dbus, and it may well be the reason but I haven't
> >> followed up.
> >>
> >>
> >> > PS: Man pages don't help a new user get up and running when they are
> >> > used to
> >> > the Linux way of doing things .... for example, the Lack of the lspci
> >> > instruction means I can't see what module I need to load  for my audio
> >> > hardware ...
> >>
> >>
> >> pciconf -l
> >> pciconf -lv
> >>
> >> A lot of this applies to DragonFly as well:
> >>
> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Peeter
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> On 6/26/2016 3:38 AM, Bernard Mentink wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi John,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So why should I use the FreeBSD instructions? I thought this was
> >> >>> DragonFlyBSD forum?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I used the instructions from
> >> >>> here: https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Are you saying I should not use the DFly instructions to setup DFly?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That is just weird ..
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Bernard,
> >> >> Of course it would be ideal if DragonFly documentation was at the
> same
> >> >> level as FreeBSD but the fact is that this is not the case.  FreeBSD
> >> >> has an
> >> >> entire team whose primary responsibility is documentation.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now you may be aware that DragonFly DPorts is basically FreeBSD ports
> >> >> made
> >> >> to work on DragonFly.  As such, instructions to install third-party
> >> >> software
> >> >> on FreeBSD are good for DragonFly as well.  So it's not weird to
> >> >> reference
> >> >> FreeBSD documentation when DPorts are involved as is the case here.
> >> >>
> >> >> As a last thought, our handbook is a living wiki.  Some people have
> >> >> improved KDE instructions recently, but if you think it needs more
> then
> >> >> you
> >> >> have the ability to write these improvements so everyone can benefit.
> >> >>
> >> >> DragonFly MAN pages are top notch, but the handbook / wiki is not at
> >> >> the
> >> >> same quality level (and in some cases are poor quality).
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >>
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