Using github for issues/collaboration

Carsten Mattner carstenmattner at
Fri Feb 21 00:28:54 PST 2014

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Michael Neumann <mneumann at> wrote:
> Am 17.02.2014 20:31, schrieb Carsten Mattner:
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:06 PM, John Marino <dragonflybsd at>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2/13/2014 15:48, Michael Neumann wrote:
>>>> Am 13.02.2014 15:26, schrieb Antonio Huete Jimenez:
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>> Honestly I don't see any compelling reasons in your email for us to
>>>>> switch to Github. But I'd be interested in knowing what are those
>>>>> collaboration barriers you see in Redmine.
>>>> Hm, the visual experience on github is IMHO the main aspect for me.  And
>>>> it's simplicity. You can use markup language to format the issue.
>>> Unfortunately it's too simple.
>>> The inability to add an attachment is a non-starter.
>>> And frankly, the "markdown by default" causes a lot of problems.
>>> Everytime somebody pastes in a script with "#" as comments, and don't
>>> know to set it as a block of code, it turns into gigantic headlines.
>>> Just a PITA.
>>> *IF* there was good attachment system and if markdown was "opt-in", then
>>> maybe there would be a discussion.
>>> Btw, DPorts issues are handled at GitHub.
>>> John
>> Also Markdown is broken and has many issues. Wikicreole or
>> Restructured text are options that don't make you face syntax
>> issues or deficiencies. I'm sorry but not everything Github does
>> is right. For example they're making ui changes but not upgrading
>> their openssh version to a modern one.
> Just out of curiosity, what exactly is broken in Markdown? It's working
> quite well for me. I think for simple bug reports, discussions or blog
> articles Markdown is good enough. You might not be possible to write
> your thesis in which you probably can with Restructured. Restructured
> text is nice, but IIRC it is only implemented for Python and it's a huge
> spec and also pretty hard to parse. For the rest of the world, Markdown
> is pretty much the defacto standard.

I'd have to look up the broken examples but Markdown's syntax is
inconsistent and has holes that don't allow you to express what
you have to. restructured text is supported on github and bitbucket
and also has syntax for tables and more. The difference between
rST and wikicreole and markdown is that the latter was a quick
hack without thinking about expressability. For simple text it won't
matter but if you really want to use the markup then it sure does.

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