[DPorts] The only packages available are for DragonFly 3.4
dragonflybsd at marino.st
Thu Jul 25 06:50:46 PDT 2013
On 7/25/2013 15:42, Justin Sherrill wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, John Marino <dragonflybsd at marino.st> wrote:
>> Flip the question.
>> What is so important about this update that it has to published
>> immediately? Especially when we were publishing only twice a year
> Twice a year? Do you mean DragonFly releases? I updated pkgsrc
> whenever I could - doing it on a timed basis was difficult because of
> the packages that would hang and never complete the process for
> upload, but it sounds like poudriere can handle that much better than
Yes, I mean releases.
Also recall this is exactly what pkgsrc "quarterlies" are: a set of
packages known to build together. We just do it every 2-4 weeks instead
of every 3 months. Even if you rebuild quarterlies, you generally don't
get new versions, only patched same versions. So twice a year is not an
unfair categorization (and the pbulk difficulties help explain that
>> Those 50 packages are reverse dependencies, which have exponential
>> ramifications One package can easily prevent 10,000 or more packages
>> from building. It's just the way it is.
> I think part of the reason I'm asking this is because I don't know
> where the threshold is for build/don't build. We know the
> dependencies and what they need to build; is there an acceptable level
> of not-building packages where we can still build newer binaries
> automatically for the packages that aren't affected?
> If we can update 10,000 packages from a build kicked off through cron
> while we figure out while the other 10,000 didn't build, that's
I don't think it is.
Right now we're rebuilding 75% of the packages in a 3-4 days. Once
dillon gets the blade servers running, we'll be looking at building that
in 24-36 hours. So after a day, you get the report, you fix the
packages and do a delta run or two. You can probably merge the whole
thing before 4 days passes.
So skipping the whole "how do we mathematically determine which packages
are safe and ONLY transfer those" issue, doing all of this to save 2
days is not worthwhile in my opinion.
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