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Weapon of Mass Deduction blacklist at internl.net
Sun Dec 12 04:52:26 PST 2004


Jonas Sundström wrote:
Weapon of Mass Deduction <blacklist at xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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So I agree with you, actually. :P


Yes, I'm sorry, my style of writing is a little fuzzy.

I'm sometimes unclear, as I'm focusing on the issue 
rather than on the arguments I'm replying to.

BTW, I must confess I'm not sure I understand everything
you write, but perhaps it goes both ways. ´:)
Ah well, it's clear enough. :)

I'm writing of frontends that stand on their own, just like any other
port/programme. So this also doesn't exclude improvements on the 
'back-end'. But you were the one that mentioned it first, remember. 
:P


Yeah, I was more thinking of complete redesigns, which are more likely 
to affect the interface exposed by a back end.
Hmm, I certainly don't disagree with your approach then. But the tools, 
especially the standard UNIX ones, must be accessible via the 
commandline (non-interactively). At least in the opinion of the more 
advanced users. So just like the commercial distribution-discussion,
we should mind to not "rush like an elephant trough the china-cabinet",
as we say it in Dutch. :D

Windows only has this option for (the highly-technical) unattended 
installs. But I remind FreeBSD (5) also has an option "Automatically
partition the [selected] disk.". So, though I never executed the 
installer of DragonFly-BSD, I expect it is avaible in that too.


Yes, it's got similar functionality. The partitioning suggested
by the installer is pretty good. I don't know how it works, but the
values seemed pretty sensible to me.
>

But though the installer might not look very modern,
it is not more difficult to understand, right?


Not really, but a little glitz ain't wrong. 
First impressions and everything... ;)
Hehe, well with the two organisations I wrote about, we can all shove it 
on GoBSD, isn't it? >:) ;)

Except maybe the keyboard-navigation.
But that can be handled by the ncurses-developers 
(isn't that the tool used to visualise the installation?).


Yes, it's either ncurses or http://, which are both fine with me, 
though I think the current vertical list + "buttons" is a seriously bad 
UI and needs to go. Not because it's ncurses based, but because it's a 
bad UI. It's not clear what item has "focus" and what will happen when 
you press return.

Apart from that, I think the features of the installer are just right.
That's all true. :)

Anyhow, I hope not all of this is bikeshed material. :]
 ...

LOL, bikeshed material, that's some Swedish saying right? :D
I can't translate it, and it happens to be non-dutch also. :P


Heh.. nah.. sometimes a little Swedish something slips through
I guess, but I try not to use expressions that are unintelligible to
the larger audience.
It's a FreeBSD term that I myself learned quite recently:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING
Hehe, FreeBSD-expressions aren't really intelligible for a larger 
audience. :P
But it's a funny one, I'll remember it. :D

BTW, Weapon.. err.. (mr Blacklist?).. your email bounces.
It's hard to send email to you privately that way.
LOL, it was not a smart idea to send e-mail to that adress... I use it 
to let spammers uncover themselves to my ISP. The blacklist is, as it 
says, a blacklist. But if you e-mail bounced all should be fine I guess.

My nickname is just for anonymity, there are eyes everywhere. ;)

If you want to, you can send e-mail to tfa.x @ inter.nl.net.

/Jonas Sundström.                www.kirilla.com





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