kernel leaking memory somewhere
Matthew Dillon
dillon at apollo.backplane.com
Wed Dec 16 21:18:27 PST 2009
:How hard would it be to change those settings at runtime, especially how
:much
:memory is available for disk caching and total available memory space?
:In virtualized environments (e.g. kvm or vkernel), it could make great sense
:
:to "return" memory pages to the host. Think about vkernel's that don't need
:a fixed-sized memory image, which then use most of the space for
:disk-caching,
:which probably makes no sense altogether in a vkernel (as it would
:double-cache
:those blocks, once in the host and another time in vkernel).
:
:Just my thoughts as I recently stumbled across the virtio-baloon driver :)
:
:Regards,
:
: Michael
A kvm or vkernel generally is going to be cycling all of its
memory regardless. Even more importantly the vkernel cannot
operate efficiently unless it maintains its own cache. It
also has to deal with copy-on-write and other mapping modes
which are not necessarily going to be condusive to sharing
the host OS's file cache.
There will be duplication but at the same time it would be
very difficult for the vkernel to manage its resources if
it were to attempt to avoid it. The vkernel (or a kvm) has to
treat its 'memory' as being immediately accessible, and it
needs to know precisely what data is instantly accessible
(i.e. in its cache) verses data which might require I/O
(whether in the host cache or not).
This is because the vkernel cannot really afford for any of its
threads dedicated to emulating 'cpus' to randomly stall due
to e.g. having to page something in from the host. The vkernel
shoves operations which it knows might stall into other
special threads precisely so its cpu threads never stall.
Actually, this is a difference I noticed when running qemu vs
a vkernel. When qemu's disk emulator needs to read from backing
store it seems to have serious trouble avoiding stalls in its
main emulation thread. Supposedly qemu is using aio but if so
it isn't working as it should. The vkernel is able to deal
with I/O much more smoothly.
-Matt
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