Remove BIND, Sendmail, Perl and etc from base?

[Jeremy Messenger]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:53:43 +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote:

> Lately Jeremy Messenger told:
> 
>> Good, have the ability of build the source (like ports) is great.
>> Because, many apps have the options to enable or disable in the compile
>> such as Gnome apps. For example, if I want AbiWord to compile with
>> Gnome support.  If someone don't even want to have AbiWord with the
>> Gnome support. I don't know how it works with Debian, I only use it for
>> like a week long time ago.
> 
> oh please, people, stop talking about debian. it has always been a PITA
> to me.

I didn't say anything about to copy Debian and I dislike Debian. I was
just wondering how Debian does that get people happy without complain
about all binaries are limited. But, I guess it's because Debian is
creating too huge binaries database by abiword-gnome, abiword and
abiword-plugins.

> most packages pull in as many dependencies as available with the result
> that simple sylpheed will take about 50MB or such (don't nail me down on
> that, but you get the idea) whereas i don't want a spell checker or PALM
> connection at all.
> 
> better look at gentoo's portage! it's USE flags are a very good idea.
> you always need to weight configurability vs space vs compile load.
> 
> i'd go for something easy configurable as portage's USE stuff plus some
> default options selecting the packages being built. don't ask me for
> details yet but i don't think that's hard to establish.

Portage is limit, less flexible and less mature compare to ports. But, I
kind of like USE feature idea thought. I hope, Matt will keep the idea of
BSD's most powerful flexible of ports with a lot of change to get better.
Ports can create binaries and use pkg_add very nice.

> but, please, stop talking about debian. it might look easy to use but
> it's hard to administer.
> 
> cheers
>   simon

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