cvs commit: src/sys/sys errno.h

Sun Jul 3 11:29:47 PDT 2005

On 03.07.2005, at 19:52, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
    Maybe in some future packaging/ports system where we can trivially
    edit vendor supplied sources we can put it back.  But that time is
    not now.  As I said, we can't afford to spend man months messing 
around
    with it, we have to move on.
It needs less than one man week to fix everything in ports/pkgsrc, not
included the build time. So we have now reached the stage where 
correctness
is less important than compatibility with broken programs?
FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE: WE ARE STILL CORRECT!

I'm tired of this discussion. I won't comment the next time we have to 
change
something to conform to a standard which breaks existing software, I 
also won't
comment when we can't change something because existing software 
depends on
broken implementations.
Please continue to point out mistakes and possible solutions. This is 
needed and wanted. But it's about our code; this time our code didn't 
becode less standards conformant. We just became more liberal.

But keep in mind that software doesn't change when
noone steps up to point out the problems and fix them.
True. But why do our users and developers need to do this? We're a 
small group, so labour is precious.

When it's easier to
add bandaids, which have to stay forever, than to fix the underlaying 
problem,
something is wrong. When it is to complain, instead of investing the 
same time
to fix a problem, something is wrong. We choose to change our uname 
and to
stop pretending to be FreeBSD for a reason and that created problems. 
The situation
is not different at all from what we have know. Is the next step to 
revert that
too?
We still pretend that we're FreeBSD in dfports, if I'm not mistaken. 
And I don't consider it as a bandaid, as ISO C99 explicitly mentions 
this as a possible implementation (which happens to reduce breakage 
with 3rd party programs).

cheers
  simon
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