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    <p>Have you tried to run memtest86 overnight ?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-06-19 16:10, Jonathan Engwall
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Crashed at shutdown last night again, it started
        three weeks ago with no warning. The machine simply froze.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 8:25 PM
          Matthew Dillon <<a href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">dillon@backplane.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">It really sounds like a lot of random stuff is
            missing and you should reinstall.  If the machine's hardware
            is not stable then that is the main issue that needs to be
            addressed.
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            <div>-Matt</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at
              5:06 PM Jonathan Engwall <<a
                href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Static libraries disappear for no reason
                <div dir="auto">ldconfig -i/usr/local/lib recovers them,
                  though it must be run repeatedly.</div>
                <div dir="auto">After that I wrenched X in semi working
                  order, without a fully functioning window manager.
                  Screen and mouse check!</div>
                <div dir="auto">It is enough work to make me reinstall.</div>
                <div dir="auto">How is the 5.8.1 installation process,
                  honestly?</div>
                <div dir="auto">Jonathan Engwall</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 18, 2020,
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                  Today's Topics:<br>
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                     1. Wrecked kernel (Jonathan Engwall)<br>
                     2. RE: Wrecked kernel (Jonathan Engwall)<br>
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                  Message: 1<br>
                  Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:31:33 -0700<br>
                  From: Jonathan Engwall <<a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
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                  Subject: Wrecked kernel<br>
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                  New problems have begun.<br>
                  In the build world of 5_8_1 I am stuck at something
                  that looks like this,<br>
                  if you can forgive my cellphone-only state:<br>
                  --- libgreputils.a---<br>
                  building static greputils library<br>
                  rm -f libgreputils.a<br>
                  ar can libgreputils.a 'lorder argmatch.o
                  c-strcasecmp.o ...<br>
                  <br>
                  Many .o files follow after that specific line ends, I
                  have this:<br>
                  <br>
                  /usr/libexec/binutils227/elf/nm: 'a file or another.o'
                  : No such file<br>
                  <br>
                  I did check, nm is an executable. Currently I cannot
                  make symlinks either.<br>
                  What might be my trouble?<br>
                  <br>
                  How can I figure out what is going on?<br>
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                  Jonathan Engwall<br>
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                  Message: 2<br>
                  Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 19:07:07 -0700<br>
                  From: Jonathan Engwall <<a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
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                  Subject: RE: Wrecked kernel<br>
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                  <br>
                  After replacing files from my partial backup X11 is
                  acting strangely.<br>
                  <br>
                  Cannot open log file
                  "/root/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log"<br>
                  <br>
                  The log file is alive and well where it has always
                  been in<br>
                  /var/log/Xorg.0.log<br>
                  <br>
                  There is mention of this on the internet, mostly on
                  ArchLinux, nothing<br>
                  useful however.<br>
                  <br>
                  Another problem, if I compile kernel 5.8 can I get
                  updates?<br>
                  <br>
                  Or is it so that I need to buildworld...because that
                  was looking bad...but<br>
                  if I could get updates maybe it would help.<br>
                  <br>
                  Thank you anyone at all for any help<br>
                  <br>
                  Jonathan Engwall<br>
                  <br>
                  On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 12:00 PM <<a
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                  > Today's Topics:<br>
                  ><br>
                  >    1. Re: Damaged kernel (Jonathan Engwall)<br>
                  >    2. Re: Damaged kernel (Jonathan Engwall)<br>
                  >    3. Finding visually similiar images (Tim
                  Darby)<br>
                  >    4. Re: Finding visually similiar images (Marc
                  Ferrand)<br>
                  ><br>
                  ><br>
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                  > Message: 1<br>
                  > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:31:19 -0700<br>
                  > From: Jonathan Engwall <<a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  > To: Matthew Dillon <<a
                    href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dillon@backplane.com</a>><br>
                  > Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <<a
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                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">users@dragonflybsd.org</a>><br>
                  > Subject: Re: Damaged kernel<br>
                  > Message-ID:<br>
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                  > <a
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                  > Things look the way they should, that is bad. It
                  means I have no idea what<br>
                  > was going on last night.<br>
                  > I am trying to copy over the entire boot
                  directory.<br>
                  ><br>
                  > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 11:50 AM Jonathan Engwall
                  <<br>
                  > <a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  ><br>
                  > > It was trouble with rufus. Swapping in a
                  5.6.2 kernel should work I<br>
                  > think.<br>
                  > ><br>
                  > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 11:12 AM Matthew
                  Dillon <<a href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">dillon@backplane.com</a>><br>
                  > > wrote:<br>
                  > ><br>
                  > >> Not enough info to really help you
                  here.   Try going into the BIOS<br>
                  > >> (usually the F2 or DEL key in early
                  boot) and check the boot order, it<br>
                  > >> might be trying to boot from internal
                  storage first and USB second and<br>
                  > >> needs to be switched around.<br>
                  > >><br>
                  > >> -Matt<br>
                  > >><br>
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                  > Message: 2<br>
                  > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:52:37 -0700<br>
                  > From: Jonathan Engwall <<a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  > To: Matthew Dillon <<a
                    href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dillon@backplane.com</a>><br>
                  > Cc: DragonFlyBSD Users <<a
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                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">users@dragonflybsd.org</a>><br>
                  > Subject: Re: Damaged kernel<br>
                  > Message-ID:<br>
                  >         <CAP=T6ZPjDnNWOBG3kN=<br>
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                  > Got out of it. I had a rogue character in the
                  kernel. Stay out of<br>
                  > /boot/kernel/kernel!<br>
                  > Ot is a death trap!<br>
                  ><br>
                  > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 12:31 PM Jonathan Engwall
                  <<br>
                  > <a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  ><br>
                  > > Things look the way they should, that is
                  bad. It means I have no idea<br>
                  > what<br>
                  > > was going on last night.<br>
                  > > I am trying to copy over the entire boot
                  directory.<br>
                  > ><br>
                  > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 11:50 AM Jonathan
                  Engwall <<br>
                  > > <a
                    href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  > ><br>
                  > >> It was trouble with rufus. Swapping in a
                  5.6.2 kernel should work I<br>
                  > think.<br>
                  > >><br>
                  > >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 11:12 AM Matthew
                  Dillon <<a href="mailto:dillon@backplane.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">dillon@backplane.com</a>><br>
                  > >> wrote:<br>
                  > >><br>
                  > >>> Not enough info to really help you
                  here.   Try going into the BIOS<br>
                  > >>> (usually the F2 or DEL key in early
                  boot) and check the boot order, it<br>
                  > >>> might be trying to boot from
                  internal storage first and USB second and<br>
                  > >>> needs to be switched around.<br>
                  > >>><br>
                  > >>> -Matt<br>
                  > >>><br>
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                  > Message: 3<br>
                  > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 17:17:02 -0700<br>
                  > From: Tim Darby <<a
                    href="mailto:t@timdarby.net" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">t@timdarby.net</a>><br>
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                  > Subject: Finding visually similiar images<br>
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                  > Does anyone know of a BSD equivalent for the
                  linux app findimagedupes? I<br>
                  > want to be able to scan folders of images files
                  looking for duplicate<br>
                  > images, not files.<br>
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                  > Tim<br>
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                  > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:35:50 +0200<br>
                  > From: Marc Ferrand <<a
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                  > Subject: Re: Finding visually similiar images<br>
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                  > I would recommend DupeGuru<br>
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                  > Le lun. 15 juin 2020 ? 02:17, Tim Darby <<a
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                  a ?crit :<br>
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                  > > Does anyone know of a BSD equivalent for the
                  linux app findimagedupes? I<br>
                  > > want to be able to scan folders of images
                  files looking for duplicate<br>
                  > > images, not files.<br>
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                  > > Tim<br>
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