<div dir="ltr">Hi Peeter,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for that, that was very helpful.</div><div>Good to have confirmation that Gnome does not work at the moment .....</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks also for the hints regarding pciconf ...</div><div><br></div><div>Now the only other issue I have running KDE is that when I enable sound on my platform by loading the snd_hda module, I get pulseaudio taking up 100% of one of my cpu cores ...</div><div>Sound works ok though .... any idea what goes on there? do I have to adjust some pulseaudio parameters?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Bernie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, karu.pruun <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karu.pruun@gmail.com" target="_blank">karu.pruun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Bernard Mentink <<a href="mailto:bmentink@gmail.com">bmentink@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi John,<br>
><br>
> Appreciate the explanation.<br>
> However, the description of the FreeBSD setup for gnome and the DFly one are<br>
> quite different.<br>
><br>
> The FreeBSD one says to start dbus and hald via rc.conf. Dfly does not say<br>
> to do that.<br>
><br>
> If I follow FreeBSD instructions KDE won't work at all, because KDE starts<br>
> dbus itself and bombs out if it is already running. So at least Dfly works<br>
> with KDE by NOT starting dbus in rc.conf ..<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>There are two standard dbus session instances normally: one is the<br>
systemwide bus that is started via /etc/rc.conf, the other is a<br>
session bus which is started by KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE when they<br>
launch. So you should include<br>
<br>
dbus_enable="YES"<br>
<br>
in rc.conf. If you do not do this, you'll see some complaining in the<br>
log; but may still be able to run the DE. This is how I run KDE and I<br>
can confirm that it runs fine on my machine DragonFly<br>
v4.5.0.1247.g122b6-DEVELOPMENT. MATE and XFCE run fine as well. I<br>
don't run hald for any of the DEs. Not sure why KDE does not run when<br>
you start the system dbus instance.<br>
<br>
GNOME (gnome3) does not work, or at least to my experience. There's<br>
some complaining by gnome-settings-daemon about not being able to<br>
communicate via dbus, and it may well be the reason but I haven't<br>
followed up.<br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
> PS: Man pages don't help a new user get up and running when they are used to<br>
> the Linux way of doing things .... for example, the Lack of the lspci<br>
> instruction means I can't see what module I need to load for my audio<br>
> hardware ...<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>pciconf -l<br>
pciconf -lv<br>
<br>
A lot of this applies to DragonFly as well:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Peeter<br>
<br>
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>> On 6/26/2016 3:38 AM, Bernard Mentink wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi John,<br>
>>><br>
>>> So why should I use the FreeBSD instructions? I thought this was<br>
>>> DragonFlyBSD forum?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I used the instructions from<br>
>>> here: <a href="https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Are you saying I should not use the DFly instructions to setup DFly?<br>
>>><br>
>>> That is just weird ..<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi Bernard,<br>
>> Of course it would be ideal if DragonFly documentation was at the same<br>
>> level as FreeBSD but the fact is that this is not the case. FreeBSD has an<br>
>> entire team whose primary responsibility is documentation.<br>
>><br>
>> Now you may be aware that DragonFly DPorts is basically FreeBSD ports made<br>
>> to work on DragonFly. As such, instructions to install third-party software<br>
>> on FreeBSD are good for DragonFly as well. So it's not weird to reference<br>
>> FreeBSD documentation when DPorts are involved as is the case here.<br>
>><br>
>> As a last thought, our handbook is a living wiki. Some people have<br>
>> improved KDE instructions recently, but if you think it needs more then you<br>
>> have the ability to write these improvements so everyone can benefit.<br>
>><br>
>> DragonFly MAN pages are top notch, but the handbook / wiki is not at the<br>
>> same quality level (and in some cases are poor quality).<br>
>><br>
>> John<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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