<div dir="ltr">Ok, I wonder if there is a way to get KDE to use OSS directly instead of horrible pulseaudio ..<div>On my system, settings show pulse with vlc as a backend ..</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Bernie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:45 AM, karu.pruun <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karu.pruun@gmail.com" target="_blank">karu.pruun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Bernard Mentink <<a href="mailto:bmentink@gmail.com">bmentink@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Now the only other issue I have running KDE is that when I enable sound on<br>
> my platform by loading the snd_hda module, I get pulseaudio taking up 100%<br>
> of one of my cpu cores ...<br>
> Sound works ok though .... any idea what goes on there? do I have to adjust<br>
> some pulseaudio parameters?<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>Yes I've noticed that too, but sorry no idea what's going on or how to<br>
fix that; I haven't followed that up. Let us know if you find out.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Peeter<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
> Bernie<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, karu.pruun <<a href="mailto:karu.pruun@gmail.com">karu.pruun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Bernard Mentink <<a href="mailto:bmentink@gmail.com">bmentink@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi John,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Appreciate the explanation.<br>
>> > However, the description of the FreeBSD setup for gnome and the DFly one<br>
>> > are<br>
>> > quite different.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The FreeBSD one says to start dbus and hald via rc.conf. Dfly does not<br>
>> > say<br>
>> > to do that.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > If I follow FreeBSD instructions KDE won't work at all, because KDE<br>
>> > starts<br>
>> > dbus itself and bombs out if it is already running. So at least Dfly<br>
>> > works<br>
>> > with KDE by NOT starting dbus in rc.conf ..<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> There are two standard dbus session instances normally: one is the<br>
>> systemwide bus that is started via /etc/rc.conf, the other is a<br>
>> session bus which is started by KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE when they<br>
>> launch. So you should include<br>
>><br>
>> dbus_enable="YES"<br>
>><br>
>> in rc.conf. If you do not do this, you'll see some complaining in the<br>
>> log; but may still be able to run the DE. This is how I run KDE and I<br>
>> can confirm that it runs fine on my machine DragonFly<br>
>> v4.5.0.1247.g122b6-DEVELOPMENT. MATE and XFCE run fine as well. I<br>
>> don't run hald for any of the DEs. Not sure why KDE does not run when<br>
>> you start the system dbus instance.<br>
>><br>
>> GNOME (gnome3) does not work, or at least to my experience. There's<br>
>> some complaining by gnome-settings-daemon about not being able to<br>
>> communicate via dbus, and it may well be the reason but I haven't<br>
>> followed up.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> > PS: Man pages don't help a new user get up and running when they are<br>
>> > used to<br>
>> > the Linux way of doing things .... for example, the Lack of the lspci<br>
>> > instruction means I can't see what module I need to load for my audio<br>
>> > hardware ...<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> pciconf -l<br>
>> pciconf -lv<br>
>><br>
>> A lot of this applies to DragonFly as well:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/article.html</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers<br>
>><br>
>> Peeter<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> >> On 6/26/2016 3:38 AM, Bernard Mentink wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Hi John,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> So why should I use the FreeBSD instructions? I thought this was<br>
>> >>> DragonFlyBSD forum?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I used the instructions from<br>
>> >>> here: <a href="https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/X/#index2h2</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Are you saying I should not use the DFly instructions to setup DFly?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> That is just weird ..<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Bernard,<br>
>> >> Of course it would be ideal if DragonFly documentation was at the same<br>
>> >> level as FreeBSD but the fact is that this is not the case. FreeBSD<br>
>> >> has an<br>
>> >> entire team whose primary responsibility is documentation.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Now you may be aware that DragonFly DPorts is basically FreeBSD ports<br>
>> >> made<br>
>> >> to work on DragonFly. As such, instructions to install third-party<br>
>> >> software<br>
>> >> on FreeBSD are good for DragonFly as well. So it's not weird to<br>
>> >> reference<br>
>> >> FreeBSD documentation when DPorts are involved as is the case here.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As a last thought, our handbook is a living wiki. Some people have<br>
>> >> improved KDE instructions recently, but if you think it needs more then<br>
>> >> you<br>
>> >> have the ability to write these improvements so everyone can benefit.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> DragonFly MAN pages are top notch, but the handbook / wiki is not at<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> same quality level (and in some cases are poor quality).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> John<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
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