<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><I am afraid to ask why you are an a "fail safe" mode.<br>
I thought you had already installed DF on a real machine and were<br>
logging in at after it booted. (You didn't leave the installer disk in<br>
the drive, right?)<br><br></div>Correct; it's installed on a real machine and the CD was ejected, but after installing xorg and kde I put that line to activate kdm in rc.conf and all went hayward.<br><br></div>I cannot login in to terminal or in any other way except for Safe mode, as far as I can tell.<br>
</div>That is exactly the problem - kdm login comes up automatically and I can't get out of the loop I described. <br><div><div><div>
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<Our man pages are great. Our handbook? it's terrible. <sorry><br><br></div><div>That will force me to finally try to understand man pages then; more homework ;-) <br></div><div>
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<Well, I agree xfce is a better starting choice.<br><br>If I can get rid of the kdm-problem, I wouldn't mind trying xfce.<br> <br>
<And I would use the FreeBSD handbook.<br><br></div><div id=":ns" class="">I have the paper version of "FreeBSD 6 Unleashed"; IŽll see if that is appropriate in guiding me. DFly is based on FreeBSD 4 I believe? So I'll be carefull and double check on the web if in doubt.<br>
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</div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Ludo <br><a href="http://www.potingue.be" target="_blank">www.potingue.be</a></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:51 PM, John Marino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dragonflybsd@marino.st" target="_blank">dragonflybsd@marino.st</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">On 4/4/2014 18:20, Ludo Beckers wrote:<br>
> <Are you editing /etc/rc.conf?<br>
><br>
> I would like to but can't in fail safe mode, right?<br>
> I just don't see how I can login otherwise.<br>
><br>
> <... activate them manually, e.g. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus enable<br>
><br>
> same problem there.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>I am afraid to ask why you are an a "fail safe" mode.<br>
I thought you had already installed DF on a real machine and were<br>
logging in at after it booted. (You didn't leave the installer disk in<br>
the drive, right?)<br>
<br>
If you are logging in as root from a normal boot, you should have no<br>
trouble editing rc.conf.<br>
<div class=""><br>
><br>
> <... read the FreeBSD handbook for desktop environments<br>
> instructions: <a href="http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html" target="_blank">http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html</a><br>
><br>
> I used this as a guide: <a href="https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/newhandbook/X/" target="_blank">https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/newhandbook/X/</a><br>
<br>
</div>Unfortunately, that is obsolete. It's back from pkgsrc days.<br>
Our man pages are great. Our handbook? it's terrible. <sorry><br>
<div class=""><br>
><br>
> Stuff like this: "KDE 4 requires that procfs(5)<br>
</div>> <<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=procfs&sektion=5" target="_blank">http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=procfs&sektion=5</a>> be mounted"<br>
<div class="">> makes me regret I installed KDE also, since I get the feeling one has to<br>
> be half an expert before anything can be achieved - even a basic install.<br>
><br>
> I should've tried xfce first - all this is really discouraging.<br>
> Sorry about the negativity but it has literally given me a headache - a<br>
> rare thing for me.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, I agree xfce is a better starting choice.<br>
And I would use the FreeBSD handbook.<br>
<br>
Sorry about the headache.<br>
I wish better documentation existed -- or that bad documentation like<br>
you found was deleted or hidden better.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
John<br>
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