<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:15 AM, John Marino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dragonflybsd@marino.st" target="_blank">dragonflybsd@marino.st</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><br></div>A large percentage of that IRC traffic are from folks that don't<br>
contribute code. Speaking for myself of course, I judge activity first<br>
on the number of active committers, then on the frequency and content of<br>
commits. Intuitively I'd say we rank about 10% compared to NetBSD which<br>
is about 50% of FreeBSD, and that's just kernel + userland, I'm not<br>
including ports/pkgsrc only commits.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Mailing list traffic was from non-contributors (non-committers might be a better phrase), so it's a wash. I think the proportions aren't as high as you are saying; since I've been doing the In Other BSDs features on the Digest, I've noticed a certain amount of the commits for other BSDs are basically architecture-specific commits. We're i386/x86_64 only (and dropping i386 sooner or later), so there's a difference.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So by those estimates we're getting by with 5% of the manpower of<br>
FreeBSD, which also means that any resignation will have a huge impact.<br>
The one thing that DragonFly is terrible about is recruiting and that<br>
should change.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My gut feeling is that we aren't doing too badly; compared to any other group without corporate sponsorship, we're pretty active. Most operating system projects tend to be one-man shows. I suppose in the long run, this sort of comparison doesn't matter, cause nobody will ever say, "oh, that's enough volunteers. We don't need more" - but we are doing well. I'd point at our repeated success with Summer of Code as an example.</div>
<div><br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">> - Freshports adapted to dports.<br></div><div class="im">
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</div>Freshports is overkill, all we need is a visual catalog describing the<br>
ports and its relationships, home page. The actual commit history is<br>
not pertinent. I believe Joris already started on something like this.<br>
<br>
Also this is project infrastructure (not a DragonFly OS or first)<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>I think it's a pretty convincing argument that there's entire companies built around infrastructure - the Linux kernel is the Linux kernel, but Suse and Redhat and Ubuntu all exist to basically provide that infrastructure.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We're wandering pretty far into off-topic opinionland, but that's OK.</div></div></div></div>