<div dir="ltr"><div>Long time listener. First time caller. </div><div><br></div>I think the "maintenance" work will enable both more people working on maintenance, and also more firsts. People capable of producing firsts may get more time in the future to work on it, and when they see it has been maintained well, they can jump right in and start producing more firsts.<br>
<div><br></div><div>I know I would love to have some spare time to work on DragonFly, but while I don't, I rely on people doing maintenance so that I can actually enjoy the firsts that are already made available by it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And I imagine that when the time comes that I can work on DragonFly, I can take over some maintenance so that those who did maintenance now can use their experience to produce firsts.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Ben</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, John Marino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dragonflybsd@marino.st" target="_blank">dragonflybsd@marino.st</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 11/21/2013 21:08, Justin Sherrill wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:07 PM, John Marino <<a href="mailto:dragonflybsd@marino.st">dragonflybsd@marino.st</a><br>
</div><div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dragonflybsd@marino.st">dragonflybsd@marino.st</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> I would not classify much of this work as maintenance.<br>
><br>
> The semaphores is pthreads work -- nobody has touched threads in years<br>
> from what I can see. Not trivial.<br>
><br>
><br>
> "Maintenance" does not mean easy. "Maintenance" means we're not<br>
> introducing anything new. This list is all, or nearly all, things<br>
> already present in FreeBSD.<br>
><br>
> I'd like to have projects in DragonFly that are unique to DragonFly. We<br>
> have a more flexible group of developers and a more straightforward code<br>
> base to deal with; this has already paid off for SMP development and<br>
> Matt's Hammer work. We've got the space to accommodate new work.<br>
><br>
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</div></div>Actually, very few people with commit access are actually producing<br>
these days. It doesn't matter how talented the group is if they aren't<br>
applying their talents.<br>
<br>
Right now, "maintenance", is about the best we can hope for unless we<br>
either get new blood or "vets" start producing something substantial.<br>
And new blood has to start somewhere, so ...<br>
<br>
I'm the first to cheer on "DragonFly Firsts" but I just don't know who<br>
is going to spearhead them right now.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
John<br>
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