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<DIV>Hi Roger,</DIV>
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<DIV>> I am new to dragonfly bsd. Fear not, I am a unix (and microsoft) admin and a programmer from the 80's. Nowadays I just do unix batch, perl, and xsl. You don't need to teach me much.</DIV>
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<DIV>> I am using vmware player 5. 64bit will not install right. 32bit installs fine so I am using it right now.</DIV>
<DIV>> I have been recreating the pkgsrc tree from scratch.</DIV>
<DIV>> I used meta-packages to install gnome with bmake bin-install clean and it is broken and bad.</DIV>
<DIV>> I installed kde3 the same way and it went fine but the web browser Konquerer segfaults.</DIV>
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<DIV>> Anyway, what is dports? I noticed that pkg_add and pkg_radd don't ever find anything.</DIV>
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<DIV>the pkg_* utilities are for pkgsrc. dports uses "pkg".</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">How do I get "pkg" installed? Sorry to be dense on this but its not in pkgsrc.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>dports is a brand-new alternative to pkgsrc.</DIV>
<DIV>>You only "need" one or the other, but you can't use both together.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Do I need to do a rm -rf pkgsrc and get rid of pkgsrc?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> I am trying to build a home user desktop for myself.</DIV>
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<DIV>both systems have kde 3.5.</DIV>
<DIV>dports has a more modern xfce4 (4.10) vs pkgsrc (4.6)</DIV>
<DIV>pkgsrc kde 4.8 may work better than dports kde 4.9 (still in testing)</DIV>
<DIV>pkgsrc probably has more total window managers that work for dragonfly ATM.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Kde is fine but I don't want any of these phone - fischer price looking - toy interfaces like Unity (gnome).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Isn't kde4 a phone app interface? If I wanted Window 8 I'd go get a psychiatric evaluation first or just go blow my brains out.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>> A torrent link to a ready to go vmware image would be greatly appreciated.</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't think that exists.</DIV>
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<DIV>> If I must I will install on real hardware to get this running.</DIV>
<DIV>> I own an msi gt660 gaming laptop with i7, usb 3.0, and nvidia gtx 285m, 6gb ram, 256gb ssd boot drive, 1tb data drive.</DIV>
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<DIV>The nvidia is likely a problem -- you probably can only get a vesa</DIV>
<DIV>driver working for it. Apparently it's possible to use freebsd nvidia</DIV>
<DIV>driver with a wrapper, but this needs to be investigated with current</DIV>
<DIV>nvidia blobs. Personally I am also interested in this.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Too bad about nvidia. I thought dragonfly bragged about have good drivers for nvidia.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:15:35 -0500</DIV>
<DIV>From: Pierre Abbat <<A href="mailto:phma@bezitopo.org">phma@bezitopo.org</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href="mailto:users@dragonflybsd.org">users@dragonflybsd.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: help with finding precompiled binaries for 32/64bit and</DIV>
<DIV> vmware player.</DIV>
<DIV>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:1756336.x91gRu0hvX@caracal">1756336.x91gRu0hvX@caracal</A>></DIV>
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<DIV>On Thursday, February 21, 2013 17:22:55 Roger Lawhorn wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>I have kde4 up, including Konqueror. I ran pkg_rolling-replace to upgrade from</DIV>
<DIV>previous versions of the packages, which took a few weeks and restarts, then</DIV>
<DIV>installed kde4, which went pretty smoothly (Qt was upgraded by rolling-</DIV>
<DIV>replace). If you run "bmake install" in the kde4 directory on a fresh install</DIV>
<DIV>with no packages, it should install the whole thing smoothly.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pierre</DIV>
<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Thanks for the advice.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 4</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:14:48 +0100</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Sascha Wildner" <<A href="mailto:saw@online.de">saw@online.de</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href="mailto:users@dragonflybsd.org">users@dragonflybsd.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: help with finding precompiled binaries for 32/64bit and</DIV>
<DIV> vmware player.</DIV>
<DIV>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:op.wswd2yxlr9a2dd@collider">op.wswd2yxlr9a2dd@collider</A>></DIV>
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<DIV>On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:22:55 +0100, Roger Lawhorn <<A href="mailto:rll@insightbb.com">rll@insightbb.com</A>></DIV>
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<DIV>> I am using vmware player 5. 64bit will not install right.</DIV>
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<DIV>What issues were there?</DIV>
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<DIV>Sascha</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">I experienced an incomplete install.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">I have switched to bare metal and the install went well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">I had to burn the DVD 3 times before I got a good one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Vmware complained a lot of not supporting freebsd and escpecially not supporting 64bit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">I will stay with bare metal install for now.</FONT></DIV>
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